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Each time I try to save something to the hard drive (new settings, etc.), the instrument crashes and returns me to the start screen. I'm not sure if there's a fault on the hard drive, something wrong with the operating system or some other fault causing it. Is there some way I can get back to factory settings or will I have to call in a repair man?
Normal functions all seem to be working properly and I can play my keyboard without any problem but it's frustrating to have some of the higher functions unavailable.
Can anyone help?
Cheers,
Mike
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Posted on January 28, 2018 at 2:11 PM
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Re: Technics KN6500 Hard Drive/Op System
You have to remember that this isn't like a PC where the diagnostics and buffering of a normal PC hardware and software protects both the disk and you from these sort of crashes. It is just a very simple interface to a disk. Unless you have anything on the disk you want to keep it is worth removing the drive and throwing it into an external usb box and connecting it to your PC to see if it then functions okay. If it does then the fault may well be in the keyboard and from your description it could possibly be the internal power supply that, when they disk tries to write the additional current that requires puts a glitch into the system. Otherwise, if the disk cannot be seen on your PC it is best to replace it with a new one. You will need to have a look through some suppliers as the disk type will be out of date now and you will probably need a new old stock drive with the same specification.
Dave Tutt
Posted on February 7, 2018 at 12:28 PM
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Re: Technics KN6500 Hard Drive/Op System
Hi Dave:
Thanks for the reply. As a matter of fact, you already provided me with the cure in answer to a different post relating to Midi. You told me how to do a factory reset, which I did, and now I have the full set of facilities available again on my KN6500. I thought the problem might lay with whatever operating system or internal HDD the keyboard is fitted with but the reset sorted everything out. I did post a thank you on the other forum and I think I sent you a personal e-mail with my appreciation of your help. It's great to have my keyboard back in full working order thanks to you.
I still need to set up my Midi link to my PC (I'm using Cakewalk's Music Creator 2 under Windows 10) but I find the Technics manual very hard to follow. If there's anyone on the website who could help with this (I guess I'm looking for someone to hold my hand while I press buttons) I'd be very grateful. Meanwhile, I'll persevere and hope I don't do something stupid.
Thanks again for your assistance thus far.
Cheers,
Mike
Posted on February 7, 2018 at 12:45 PM
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Re: Technics KN6500 Hard Drive/Op System
Hi Mike
I don't know of anyone who can hand hold as such.
I assume you want to do a midi creation that will leave a midi file in cakewalk?
The midi out on your keyboard will be outputting midi data all the time. The default function of most if not all keyboards that I know of. So for instance if you link your midi out to another keyboard midi in the second keyboard plays the same notes as you are playing on the Technics. The biggest issue generally is to stop them talking to each other and getting some control over the data so that should you want to change voices on the technics it doesn't send that command down the cable to make the other keyboard change into a similar voice too. That is where it gets complex. Default values of your 6500 should be putting out note on and off data on midi channel 1 and then depending on anything else you might have, say a bass pedal board or the use of the rhythm unit these go out on a different midi channel.
Hope that helps. If you want to know more specific stuff then drop me a message either here or via email.
Dave
Posted on February 7, 2018 at 1:43 PM
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Re: Technics KN6500 Hard Drive/Op System
Hi Dave:
Thanks for the prompt response. I used to run a Midi setup with my old KN700, a Roland CM32L sound module and an Atari computer running Gajits' "Breakthru" sequencer software. I bought my KN700 brand new, so it must have been around 1985. After weeks of trial, error, swearing and failure, I finally got it to work. When this happened, my immediate reaction was "why didn't the manual tell me to do that?" The problem is that manuals have to contain and explain every feature whether it is necessary to doing what one wants to do or not. Then, one doesn't know if what one is reading is essential or just so the manual is complete.
Somewhere in the mess I now call my memory, is a recollection (now 33 years old) that says "the output must be set to Local". Although there's not much else I can recall. However, the KN6500 is complex, so I don't know if I have to set all parts (?) globally to "Local" or go through the entire list and set each one individually. And this is just a small example of one aspect of setting things up... Basically, I want to set the sequencing software up to play an "accompaniment" with various parts such as bass, strings, backing guitar, etc. playing the passages I program into the software and me playing the solo on the KN6500 and doing vocals (if there are any). Once I've done a particular song, I can save it to disk and move on to another. Eventually, I'll try to connect the Roland voice box and maybe my KN800 - but this will be much later.
At the moment, my first problem is getting the sequencer software to realise there is a keyboard connected to my PC by a USB/midi cable. If I can resolve that, it will give me an opening to experiment with the KN6500 and see what I can do to move things on. I have switched the switch on the back of the keyboard to "Midi" but, running through the various pages of the manual, I'm finding it hard to work out what I have to do. I have a very basic understanding of the midi channels and how to set them up via the sequencing software (assuming Music Creator is similar to Breakthru') but, as I say, at present, Music Creator seems unaware of the existence of the keyboard.
I realise you are busy and can only offer basic help but it's hard to know where else to turn. If you do feel able to at least get over my immediate problem, I shall be very grateful.
Cheers,
Mike
Posted on February 7, 2018 at 3:41 PM
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Re: Technics KN6500 Hard Drive/Op System
I'll have a think and see what I can come up with. MIDI isn't like connecting up a USB device as it is invisible until you hit either a software package to send down the midi cable and then it will only produce sound if the keyboard is looking to accept it and that it is on the correct midi channel for the specific combination of sounds and notes you want. Likewise you can set your software to record but it wont do anything unless you have it looking at the right midi channel and the cable is in the right ports too. And if you use auto acc where you might want to do single finger chords then on some instruments this split in the keyboard then comes out on midi channel 2 with the rhythms on perhaps 3 or 4 depending on any other splits or multiple voices you might be using on the right hand side so its all very complex without any real help. I would suggest you try the simplest of tasks first. default sound, and I think there is a settings example in the manual and then go for setting up your software to match it. Having done a master reset I have a feeling there is a listing in the manual that explains what you get on the midi side with this.
Dave
Posted on February 7, 2018 at 3:52 PM
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Re: Technics KN6500 Hard Drive/Op System
I'm not sure but I think this is progress. I've got my sequencer software to play some music through my keyboard! The set up of instruments doesn't sound right but I think that's just because of the settings in the software.
To achieve this, I just fiddled with some of the software parameters and hey-presto! I left the keyboard pretty well in its initialised state. The next step will be to see if I can output some stuff from the keyboard to the software.
I feel quite encouraged and am going to read the software manual more closely to see if I can find out how to regulate the data going out.
Hopefully, I now need only bother you if I get seriously stuck! You're obviously having the right influence on things, so please think positive thoughts 
Thanks,
Mike
Posted on February 7, 2018 at 4:21 PM
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